Class 07: WED FEB 07

Riddle. How do geese know
which goose to follow?

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Class 07 WED FEB 07

 

Riddle: Transporter 3

What’s wrong with the buoyancy solution?

Counterintuitive Questions

Can we Democratize Water? Will we be Allowed to?

Update: Government intervention in collecting rainwater?
Color-coded map to rainwater collection restrictions
A book about Water privatization: Water Wars by Vandana Shiva
PBS Documentary Klamath River Water War
Book: Manual for Water Harvesting

The Failed Ransom Note

What can a ransom note teach us about making bold, clear, persuasive claims?

Click to launch the full Ransom Note Illustration

Let’s Argue

Click here to launch the “Panhandler Argument”

References

Assignment

Annotated Bibliography
(The first 5 Sources)
“Proposal+5”

Before Class WED FEB 14

Follow the link to the assignment. You’ll expand your MyHypothesis to one paragraph and provide Purposeful Summaries of the first five sources you find in your research.

38 Responses to Class 07: WED FEB 07

  1. – Richard Feynman’s rule in life is to never give out all the information
    -transporter riddle this relates to our riddle as the air in the tires wouldn’t be able to float the car why would the car float in a bag. Sure the information is given through the typical logic of the real world though it’s never called upon in the film.
    -we also discussed rainwater harvesting once again in small spatters throughout the country
    – a good ransom note also makes a good argument, it provides an incentive to follow the writer’s argument, and provides a call to action. So try to follow the structure of a well written ransom note, of course without the vague threat to a loved one’s life.
    -there are several reactions to panhandlers. Whether or not you give them money depends on your moral standings when dealing with someone. Of course you don’t want to fully explain to this person why you don’t exactly want to give them all the money you have, and so you pull a number out into the air. It’s usually a few cents because you can justify giving someone a form of money that is less than a dollar, other people have surely given this person standing on the side of the road and so my contribution is adding to the sum they already have.
    -our proposals +5 are due next Wednesday.

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    • davidbdale's avatar davidbdale says:

      I love that you’re engaging in an ethical debate with yourself here in Class Notes, TPOT. I also value that you will refrain from threatening your readers in your arguments.
      4/3

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  2. ravensfan8's avatar ravensfan8 says:

    -Riddle:They follow the one in front. Riddles are devious in the best ways. They can define any expectations.
    -Richard Feynman is found to be one of the most intelligent people ever. Quote by Feynman “Never give out all the information”
    -Riddle 2: Fill a massive balloon with tire air and the car will float up.
    -Collecting rain is legal in most states but there are a group of states that restrict it.
    -Ransom note: bold clear premise, step by step logical proof, emphasize and illustrate
    -There are no yes or no questions
    -Under what circumstances make questions better to argue and explain other than yes or no
    -Try to direct your tone to the topic or type of people you are persuading
    -Assignment: Annotated Bibliography (The first 5 sources) Proposal+5 due before class next Wednesday Feb 14th

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    • davidbdale's avatar davidbdale says:

      Decent Notes, RavensFan, but just a few observations from the top of the list:

      -Riddle:They follow the one in front. Riddles are devious in the best ways. They can define any expectations.

      —They DEFY expectations.

      -Richard Feynman is found to be one of the most intelligent people ever. Quote by Feynman “Never give out all the information”

      —Relevance to the course, to writing? Why mention it here?

      -Riddle 2: Fill a massive balloon with tire air and the car will float up.

      —Actually, no, it wouldn’t. The point of the illustration was that moving the air from the tires to the balloons would not improve the buoyancy of the car at all. Just bad movie logic, but it’s so EASY to be CONVINCED by bad arguments if the rhetoric is strong (as it is in Hollywood movies).

      -Collecting rain is legal in most states but there are a group of states that restrict it.

      —Granted, but what’s the relevance to argument? To ethics? To argument? To writing?

      You’re invited to expand or clarify notes for a grade improvement for a few days after receiving my Reply and this invitation, RavensFan.
      Grade 2/3

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  3. SleepyCat's avatar SleepyCat says:

    – The best thing about riddles is that they’re devious in the best ways possible.
    – Technique is one of the most important components of storytelling to persuade the audience of our claims.
    – The purposeful summaries assignment was meant to be small arguments on topics that seem counterintuitive; delivering a large amount of information in as few words as possible.
    – An effective proposal argument includes a bold clear premise, step-by-step logical proof, and specific details to illustrate proof. It requires us to think of who will be our audience and if our words will persuade them.
    – Gather 5 academic sources and provide purposeful summaries for each for our hypothesis due before class next Wednesday. Also develop a research proposal based on our hypothesis that is specific, arguable, researchable, and verifiable. Our final portfolio will include an annotated bibliography detailing articles we may have specifically quoted in our work or just used to expand our knowledge of the subject.

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    • davidbdale's avatar davidbdale says:

      For this nicely-crafted summary alone, you earn a little extra, SleepyCat.

      – An effective proposal argument includes a bold clear premise, step-by-step logical proof, and specific details to illustrate proof. It requires us to think of who will be our audience and if our words will persuade them.

      4/3

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  4. ilovemydog's avatar ilovemydog says:

    For the third riddle with the car, when we first see the solution of the character it seems realistic, but when we see it we realize there is no difference between the air in the tires and the air alongside the tire.

    The logic of this scene carries us through because we are so engaged in the movie.
    It is legal to harvest rainwater in most states, but there are a couple where we can’t. In North Carolina, Oklahoma, Texas, Oregon, and maybe some other states there are some incentives against collecting rainwater.

    The purposeful summaries are all arguments. We want to deliver detail and subject matter.

    A good ransom note has a clear premise, step-by-step logical proof, and an emphasis on reasoning.

    The first ransom didn’t have a lot of information, but the second ransom note was better because it had a lot of information and specifics of what the outcomes would be. It made the claims clearly and as stately as possible.

    There is never really a yes or no answer to a question.

    There are always ideal readers to see whom our writing could persuade.

    Messages could be the same, but the difference is the rhetoric between them.

    We need 5 sources for our hypothesis before class next Wednesday.

    In our paper, the bibliography is where we will put the things we used for information but didn’t necessarily cite.

    Our research pitch has to be as specific as possible. It also has to be arguable.
    Some things can be verified and some things can’t. Some things can be researched and some things can’t.

    When we post it we post it to the blog with the title of proposal+5

    Avoid naming a topic in a proposal and avoid survey proposals.

    Avoid vague arguments.

    Avoid arguments that won’t be settled in your lifetime.

    Choose researchable evidence.

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    • davidbdale's avatar davidbdale says:

      If you ever found the time shortly after class to put together a more formal version of your Class Notes, I’ll be this little section would make a good short tutorial on writing for a Specific Audience:

      —There is never really a yes or no answer to a question.
      —There are always ideal readers to see whom our writing could persuade.
      —Messages could be the same, but the difference is the rhetoric between them.

      Grade 4/3

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  5. holistic25's avatar holistic25 says:

    From the Transporter 3 film, it’s a convincing rhetorical scene that the viewer fails to question the technique because we’re so warped in emotion, rooting for Statham. It’ll take some advance thinking after the film to question whether Statham’s technique of transferring the air from the tire to the air bag actually should work to raise the car above water.

    You are the product of a free app (they constantly collect your data).

    Whatever the motivation is, the technique is what we’re most interested in pertaining persuasive writing.

    Currently, water is a right.

    Water is a power struggle between river, farmer, and lake interest. The farmer gets the last cut after the river and lake are done fighting for it.

    Purposeful summaries are arguments.

    We call something a hypothesis until we take a stance, thus becoming a thesis.

    A persuasive argument makes a bold, clear premise (i.e. no misunderstandings).

    There really never is a yes or no answer to a question. Circumstances are pivotal to glean understanding.

    You want an argument that is provocative.

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    • davidbdale's avatar davidbdale says:

      I’m never sure that what I’m saying gets through, Holistic, but these little nuggets suggest that while my presentation may have been wide-ranging and not well-concentrated, key takeaways found their way into your brain. 🙂

      —Purposeful summaries are arguments.
      —We call something a hypothesis until we take a stance, thus becoming a thesis.
      —A persuasive argument makes a bold, clear premise (i.e. no misunderstandings).
      —There really never is a yes or no answer to a question. Circumstances are pivotal to glean understanding.
      —You want an argument that is provocative.

      Grade 4/3

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  6. temporal111's avatar temporal111 says:

    If a product is free, you are the product
    Its weird you can’t collect rainwater but can if you are a private corporation
    Make your argument like a ransom note, clear and concise
    There are no yes or no questions

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  7. Brandon Sigall's avatar eaglesfan says:

    -Riddle:How do geese know which goose to follow? They follow the one in front. Riddles can sometimes be so simple and other times be more in depth. Sometimes we answer a riddle and after answering realize the answer was right in front of our faces the whole time. Riddles sometimes make us overthink answers.
    -Quote: “There are two rules in life: 1.Never give out information.” The quote is by Richard Feynman.
    -Riddle Transporter 3: There is only so much air in the tires the character could use. It is the same amount whether it is in the tires or in the bags next to the car. It makes no possible sense that the air in the bags could lift the car up to the surface when the air in the tires couldn’t. The film dismisses logic in this scene and that is when it becomes the movie part of the film. Someone in real life would most likely drown in this situation aa they have to wait so long to get help. We are most interested in stories that we dismiss logic ourselves. It is once we think about what we watched that we realize it didn’t make any sense.
    -Counterintuitive questions: Can we Democratize water? Will we be allowed to? Water is considered a right but rainwater is a common property. If a person were to collect rainwater they would technically be stealing water from other people. The government however, is able to collect it and then resell it to us. It is counterintuitive then because the government is allowed to but regular people are not able to. Rain water is able to be harvested in most places. Some areas offer incentives when collecting rainwater.
    -The Failed Ransom Note: A good ransom note give a bold clear premise. It should also give step by step logical “proof” and specific details to emphasize the reasoning. The second note is much better then the first. The second gives the exact details and exactly what they want from Mrs. Robinson. The point in the second note is made very clearly and has very serious consequences whereas the first just says something might happen if the person does a certain thing.
    -The Panhandler argument: When answering questions, they should be looked at as what can be considered. What is going on in the situation instead of saying a simple yes or no. This creates better research questions. This then can create a better research paper. The way panhandlers get money depends on the person. Panhandlers are trying to persuade certain people to give them money or other things. Things like saying “single mom” or having a dog. These types of things are how they get money.
    -Assignment: Annotated Bibliography due before class Wed Feb 14. Pitch research proposal and gather 5 academic sources.

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    • davidbdale's avatar davidbdale says:

      Yeah. Just so, EaglesFan.

      The film dismisses logic in this scene and that is when it becomes the movie part of the film. Someone in real life would most likely drown in this situation aa they have to wait so long to get help. We are most interested in stories that we dismiss logic ourselves. It is once we think about what we watched that we realize it didn’t make any sense.

      —The lesson for writers here is that when we are moved by the arguments of others, we might very well be responding emotionally to the charisma of the speaker.
      —We might also be more willing to be moved ourselves when the writer’s thesis aligns naturally with our own prejudices.
      —The other lesson is more of a caution: It would be easy to swindle our readers by rejecting logic, reason and evidence in an attempt to persuade them on passion alone, or an appeal to their fears, or to use any other technique of propaganda.
      —So, we need to be on guard always against being TAKEN IN by propaganda, and against ENGAGING IN propaganda.

      Grade 4/3

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  8. Snowman10's avatar Snowman10 says:

    1. Richard Feynman’s Rule:
    – Withhold information strategically to maximize impact.
    – Example: Selectively disclosing facts to enhance curiosity and engagement.
    – Significance: Illustrates the power of strategic information management in communication.

    2. Transporter Riddle:
    – Challenges conventional logic by presenting paradoxical scenarios.
    – Example: Questioning the feasibility of a car floating inside a sealed bag of air.
    – Significance: Highlights the importance of critical thinking and questioning assumptions.

    3. Rainwater Harvesting:
    – Implemented intermittently across regions for water conservation.
    – Example: Adoption of rainwater collection systems in areas prone to drought.
    – Significance: Addresses environmental sustainability and resource management.

    4. Ransom Note Analogy:
    – Draws parallels between persuasive argument structure and ransom notes.
    – Example: Using incentives and calls to action to influence behavior.
    – Significance: Demonstrates the persuasive power of clear communication and compelling messaging.

    5. Reactions to Panhandlers:
    – Elicits varied responses based on individual moral beliefs and societal norms.
    – Example: Differentiating between giving money, food, or ignoring panhandlers.
    – Significance: Reflects broader attitudes towards charity, poverty, and social responsibility.

    6. Proposal Deadlines:
    – Highlights the importance of meeting deadlines for academic assignments.
    – Example: Setting specific deadlines for proposal submissions to ensure timely completion.
    – Significance: Emphasizes accountability and time management skills in academic settings.

    This discussion aims to deepen understanding of diverse topics, fostering critical thinking and analytical skills essential for academic and professional success.

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  9. davidbdale's avatar davidbdale says:

    Damn, Snowman! 🙂
    You made that way more significant than I could!
    4/3
    For the first time, I considered 5/3, but I’m hesitant to go down that road.

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    • davidbdale's avatar davidbdale says:

      Changed my mind on a second read through all the Notes for this day.
      Your #1 alone is worthy of extra credit. Just brilliant:

      1. Richard Feynman’s Rule:
      – Withhold information strategically to maximize impact.
      – Example: Selectively disclosing facts to enhance curiosity and engagement.
      – Significance: Illustrates the power of strategic information management in communication.

      Revised Grade 5/3

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  10. username1132005's avatar username1132005 says:

    -Riddle: How do geese know which goose to follow? The front one leading the rest of the geese.
    -Quote: “There are two rules in life: Never give out all the information”-Richard Feynman. He was a very intelligent guy, and even wrote a book about himself.
    -Second Riddle- Transporter 3: Why does it make a difference that the tires that are on the car filled with air cannot hold the car up while its sinking, but when air is taken from those tires and is put into bags, then the car floats to the top once attached from that car.
    -Rain water has been taken over by the government in terms of if it is legal or not to keep. There are many states with restrictions, while others have no restions. It just depends on the state and what they believe in. Some states that are illegal are Texas, Oregan, and North Carolina.
    -A good argument starts with a bold, clear premise starting with a hypothesis, which has to be proved, which then turns into a thesis that is explaining what we are writing about.
    -We went over two ransom notes that each demonstrated different ways that they can be written, with one being stronger than the other. The failed ransom note lacked a strong claim and detail, while the others had an extremely strong claim with plenty of details to back it up. I learned the importance of only adding details that are essentially to the claim, and to eliminate “fluff”.
    -A good research question has the idea of “under what circumstance” at the forefront. In a persuasive argument, you have to think about your audience, and who you will persuade your claim to.
    -The panhandlers example made me think deeper and be more open to people’s ideas about giving to those people in need. Everyone has a different opinion on what they truly think they should do. People could absolutely stand for one thing, but when they are in that situation of being face to face with a panhandler, they may not do the deed. It all depends on the circumstances and safety aspect of the situation.
    -The next assignment due before next Wednesday’s class is finding 5 scholarly sources in regards to our hypothesis and to give summaries for each of these sources. This pitch has to be very specific and arguable.

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    • davidbdale's avatar davidbdale says:

      I was about to ask you to expand on your observation that hypotheses depend on “under what circumstances” considerations, Username. Then, as if you had heard me ask, you connected that observation to the panhandler argument:

      -A good research question has the idea of “under what circumstance” at the forefront. In a persuasive argument, you have to think about your audience, and who you will persuade your claim to.
      -The panhandlers example made me think deeper and be more open to people’s ideas about giving to those people in need. Everyone has a different opinion on what they truly think they should do. People could absolutely stand for one thing, but when they are in that situation of being face to face with a panhandler, they may not do the deed. It all depends on the circumstances and safety aspect of the situation.

      Your Notes aren’t exemplary in EVERY way, but if you keep recording nice parallels like this one, I’ll keep awarding bonus points.

      Grade 4/3

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  11. Unknown's avatar Anonymous says:

    – A riddle can either prove or define your expectations.
    – Quote: “2 rules in life, never give out all the information”. By Richard Feynman
    – Riddle: Transporter 3~ What’s wrong with buoyancy? The dilemma was that if the agent left the car, it would blow up, if he stayed, he would drown, and if he got out, he would get shot. When sent crashing into the water, the problem was that there wasn’t enough air in the tires to float the car so why would releasing the air be enough?

    – The best way to keep people engaged is by showing constant differences between one and another.
    – The Democratized water question was brought up again: Logistically, when harvesting occurs, you’re preventing the natural cycle of water from getting to the land and completing its process. It’s counterintuitive that we have to let the rain go just for companies to process it and sell it back to us for a price. In most places in the United States, it’s illegal to collect rainwater, some require permits. There is competition for water, and soon we’ll have to privatize.

    – The failed ransom note: What can it teach us about making bold, clear, persuasive claims? The hypothesis should have a bold and clear premise, start with a hypothesis, and build it into a thesis statement.
    – Should have logical “Proof”
    – Specific details to emphasize the consequences or reasoning.
    – The first note didn’t follow the rules of being a persuasive claim, it wasn’t threatening or clear with intentions. The second note was clearly persuasive and provided in-depth details of what was wanted and what would happen if the receiver did not follow the note.

    – Let’s Argue: There’s never a real yes or no question, every time you write a persuasive argument you have to envision your ideal reader.

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  12. Gymrat's avatar Gymrat says:

    riddles sometimes are very simple, but looked at in a deeper manner because of the concept of them always being more difficult than they already are

    One of the main purposes of the blog is to have classmates’ examples to look at to get the brain started

    Feynman was known as one of the most smartest man to have ever been known to physicist

    He said “Never give out all the information” and the second rule was never to give out

    The issue with the buoyancy in the clip is that it won’t ever bring up the car, it is a nice story to grasp the people. For example, kids kill themselves because of social media. People start listening because someone now has a possible solution for it or ways to remind them of what could occur to them if they keep scrolling through social media. Constantly comparing. The point is to give a story to someone and grasp their attention.

    Why does water in some states not allow us to collect water? It is a right, not a privilege? Sometimes a permit is needed to collect water from your property, in other places there are more regulations, now even wars for water in the US

    A good argument makes a clear bold statement, step-by-step, “proof”, and specific details

    A good ransom note states everything clearly and specifically as possible

    Panhandlers; giving them money was the argument. I would always do it. Others overthink it and that at that point should not give anything. Sometimes the signs make you want to give or not, the point of the message on the sign is to persuade you.

    Start doing the research for my hypothesis, five sources are needed by Wednesday.

    Make sure the research pitch is as specific as possible and be able to argue with it

    Proposals due next Wednesday (research +5)

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    • davidbdale's avatar davidbdale says:

      Interesting. You’re the only Note-taker I’ve seen so far who recorded the “danger of video games” example, Gymrat. I’d forgotten it myself. But it’s useful, isn’t it? It captured your imagination long enough to record it.

      WE’RE STORYTELLERS.
      Every persuasive argument is a story, and the narrative is what drives readers on to the next paragraph. It follows very different rules of evidence and ethical responsibility, but essay writing, like all good writing, is NARRATIVE.

      Thank you for the reminder.
      Grade 4/3

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  13. ilovebeesss's avatar ilovebeesss says:

    – Richard Feynman – He demonstrates the argument of his quote by testing how in life there are two rules and only gives the first one that emphasizes how we should not give away too much information.

    – Riddle Transporter 3 – Question our logic, the air in the tires was what made the car heavier so as not to float or was it what could keep the car afloat like a life preserver. We have to have our critical thinking ready for any scenario.

    – Is it illegal to collect rainwater? – Is not being able to collect water on our properties to protect ourselves or to protect our ecosystem? Doesn’t that mean that by protecting our ecosystem we are also protecting ourselves? And if we can’t use the water that falls from the sky, then what do we do with the distance between the roof of our house and the highest part of the sky that belongs to us and that we paid when we bought our house?

    – Ramson mote – A good ramson note makes a good argument to try to persuade the reader to do something in return. It must have a clear premise. There will be details that emphasize the importance of the premise.

    – What happens when we argue? – There is never a yes or no answer. There is always a question about under what circumstances. There is also always an ideal reader. Every time you try to write a persuasive paper you have to be aware of who your ideal reader is and what you can do to persuade them.

    – Proposal +5: Summarize the content of the article and how it would help prove or disprove your hypothesis.

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    • davidbdale's avatar davidbdale says:

      Thanks for reporting this essential advice as a succinct and clear Purposeful Summary, ILoveBeessssssss.:

      – What happens when we argue? – There is never a yes or no answer. There is always a question about under what circumstances. There is also always an ideal reader. Every time you try to write a persuasive paper you have to be aware of who your ideal reader is and what you can do to persuade them.

      Grade 4/3

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  14. doglover7025's avatar doglover7025 says:

    Riddle- how do geese know which goose to follow?- they follow the one in the front. Riddles are sometimes really simple we just overthink.

    Riddle- “There are two rules in life: 1. Never give out all the information”- Richard Feynman(very smart man). He doesn’t give out the second rule because the first rule is to never give out too much information.

    Riddle- Watched a clip from the movie Transporter 3, the water/car scene has a very high rhetorical value We’re not looking at what’s going on in the movie, were focusing on other aspects. How can the air in tires not bring the car up, but once that same air is put into bags, it’s lifted up.

    Multiple states allow the collection of rainwater, some with restrictions. NJ is a legal state to collect it.

    Failed ransom note- It has a bold and clear premise, step-by-step logical proof, and specific details that emphasize and show the reader.

    A good vs. bad ransom note will show the difference between a persuasive claim.

    When answering ethical questions- depends on the circumstances
    When we aruge it’s never yes, or no, its always depends on the situation.

    Proposal +5: 5 sources that connect with our hypothesis! Due next Tuesday!

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    • davidbdale's avatar davidbdale says:

      You keep flirting with the Notes that will earn bonus points, DogLover. Here’s a chance to hit that mark by expanding on what starts out as really good advice to both readers and writers about the distracting/persuasive/devious potential of rhetoric.

      Care to expand in a Reply below to get yourself to 4/3?

      Grade 3/3

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  15. toetio's avatar toetio says:

    -Geese riddle. This riddle tricks people because it is so simple.

    -Richard Feynman quote “There are two rules in life: 1) Never give out all the information” He would be breaking his first rule if he told us the second.

    -Car Buoyancy “Riddle” in the scene from the movie shown to us, the hero prevents his car from sinking by inflating buoyancy balloons with air from his tires. This would not work in real life, however the movie convinces you it would in the moment. In other words even fictional stories make use of persuasive arguements
    Persuasive argument

    -Two different ransom notes were used as an example of a persuasive argument. The first one was not very persuasive because it did not have a bold and clear premise, it did not provide a logical proof and it did not provide specific details to emphasize it’s message. The second note did all of the things the first one did not

    -Panhandler argument
    When asked about whether people would or would not give money to pan handlers we found that the answer was rarely ever yes or not. It varied depending on the views of the individual questioned and how they viewed the panhandler. How people view the panhandler is dependent on a variety of factors, some people may be more willing to give if they are a woman or a veteran etc.

    -Proposal + 5
    We need to find five sources related to our hypothesis by wednesday, february 14th. We should provide a brief purposeful summary for each source. Our research should help us develop our hypothesis into something that is specific, arguable, researchable, and verifiable

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    • davidbdale's avatar davidbdale says:

      What does this tell you about the danger of writing as if readers think categorically? How if at all would it apply to considerations of which audience you can convince with what arguments?
      Improve your grade, if you like, with a Reply below to expand your observations.
      Grade 3/3

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  16. hockeyfan's avatar hockeyfan says:

    Riddle: Riddles are devious in the best way, they trick you into thinking you know the rules of engagement. Which goose do they all follow, the one in the front.

    Richard Feynman “there are two rules in life: Never give out all the information”

    Riddle #2: Transporter 3: If there was not enough air in the tires to make the car float originally, why would it make a difference with the bags attached to the tires? Why does it only begin to float when the bags are filled with the air from the tires?

    How much money goes into purifying water just to spray on your grass? Why are companies allowed to collect it just to sell it back to us? Depending on what state you live in, you may be allowed to collect your rainwater, and in some states, there are a few restrictions on it. However, in some states, there is absolutely no rain collecting on your property.

    Ransom note: To make a good ransom note it should have a clear hypothesis, logical proof; lay out the details, and emphasize and illustrate the reasoning you want.

    There is never a yes or no question, it is always under what circumstances is what you should ask. Would you give a panhandler money every time you see one? This was a good example of under what circumstances, would you give them food, the $20 in your wallet, or the couple of quarters you have at the bottom of your purse. There is always an ideal reader when you write something. The audience you are writing to makes all the difference in a persuasive essay.

    All 5 sources for the hypothesis are needed by Wednesday, summarize each source. Only provide what is important thoughts in the summaries no useless information.

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    • davidbdale's avatar davidbdale says:

      For the 4/3 bonus, HockeyFan, address in a Reply below the connection between the first and last sentences in your panhandler section:

      There is never a yes or no question, it is always under what circumstances is what you should ask. There is always an ideal reader when you write something. The audience you are writing to makes all the difference in a persuasive essay.

      Grade 3/3

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  17. Unknown's avatar Anonymous says:

    – [ ] A good random note makes a good argument- this includes a bold, clear premise, step-by-step logical proof, and specific details to emphasize and illustrate the reasoning
    – [ ] We read through a number of sample ransom letters and determined which of the letters would create a strong argument.
    – [ ] We discussed whether giving pan handlers money is a good idea. It is never a simple yes or no question. Ethical questions are never black and white.
    – [ ] After discussing the choices that might be made while encountering a panhandler, we then went through a list of possible actions people might take.
    – [ ] Remember to gather 5 academic sources by next week! (2/14) Remember to include an expanded hypothesis — make sure it is specific, arguable, researchable, and verifiable.
    – [ ] It is okay to have more than 5 sources, if direct evidence isn’t included, they don’t need to be cited.
    – [ ] The bibliography might be long, it includes all academic sources that contributed to your background knowledge.
    – [ ] Things to avoid: naming a topic instead of a hypothesis, survey proposal. Things to create: controversial premise.
    – [ ] Is the hypothesis arguable? Avoid: too broad an argument, too vague an argument. Create:
    – [ ] Counterintuitive topics: professor discussed his personal interpretations of counterintuitive ideas. He gave many examples of counterintuitive topics from science, social sciences, and art.
    – [ ] **Read article about euthanasia for kids.

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    • Calm&Patient's avatar Calm&Patient says:

      This is from Calm&Patient

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      • davidbdale's avatar davidbdale says:

        Thanks, Calm&Patient.
        Your Notes contain remnants of “Talked About” language and description. There’s not much value in describing WHAT HAPPENED in the class, as these examples do:

        – [ ] We read through a number of sample ransom letters and determined which of the letters would create a strong argument.
        – [ ] After discussing the choices that might be made while encountering a panhandler, we then went through a list of possible actions people might take.

        —A possible revision for the first might be:

        The ransom note that made vague allusions to “consequences” if “others were involved” were nowhere near as effective as the direct threat to send the wife her husband’s finger if she missed a ransom payment.

        Pick up a bonus point on these Notes by revising your first draft or by responding to this Reply.

        Grade 3/3

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  18. BreakingBad45's avatar BreakingBad45 says:

    Wednesday Febrruary 7th , 2024 AGENDA NOTES

    We learned that our professor will send us texts for our assistance for assignments if we needed

    I learned that the way geese find person to follow by the goose in the front

    I learned that the rule of lids is to never give out all the information

    Many people believe that Richard Feynman is believed to be the smartest man in the world as people would ask physicists and scientists they would all answer with Richard being the smartest

    Transporter 3 gives you the idea can someone survive underwater with tire pressurised air

    Technique is one of the important parts of storytelling

    We cannot control rain water and collect it illegally because water is a right

    Something i learned is that it is legal to rain harvest in most states like north dakota

    There are 8 states that stop the way of harvesting rainwater

    A good ransum note can make a big proposal argument
    iF you cant give a full yes or no in a question it can easily be debated

    Sometimes the homeless are willing to set a narrative for a certain fewer or witness

    Find 5 sources for MY HYPOTHESIS DUE THURSDAY !

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    • davidbdale's avatar davidbdale says:

      I’m glad you’re catching up on your Notes, BB.
      Not all of them make sense.
      (I pay even more attention to the Notes that come in late.)

      Many people believe that Richard Feynman is believed to be the smartest man in the world as people would ask physicists and scientists they would all answer with Richard being the smartest

      —Not untrue, but hardly the point of the quote.

      Transporter 3 gives you the idea can someone survive underwater with tire pressurised air

      —Well . . . that’s true, but the point of the bit was that the solution only works to raise the car to the surface if you accept ludicrous “movie physics.”

      Sometimes the homeless are willing to set a narrative for a certain fewer or witness

      —I have no idea what this means.

      2/3

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  19. webbwrestler135's avatar webbwrestler135 says:

    Class riddle- How do these geese know which goose to follow?
    They follow the one in front

    “There are two rules in life:
    1. Never give out all the information.” – Richard Feynman

    Counterintuitive questions
    Can we democratize water? Will we be allowed to?

    The government does not allow us to catch and keep the rainwater that fall on our property

    The failed ransom note-
    What can a ransom note teach us about making bold, clear, persuasive claims?
    Has to be clear and precise
    Lay out all the details to the reader
    Illustrate what you want

    Lets argue-
    The panhandler argument
    Under what circumstances do we give the homeless or less fortunate money?

    Different examples-
    “I always give to panhandlers”
    “I give to panhandlers who truly look desperate”
    “I never give to panhandlers”

    Assignment-
    Annotated Bibliography
    First five sources +5 proposal
    DUE before class on Feb 14
    Summarize each one and only provide important thoughts on them without the useless info
    Can have more than five sources if direct evidence isn’t given then no need to cite

    Read article written about euthanasia!!!

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